This page has been titled "Pattaya Bar Girls" and is not about Thai women in general. As a matter of course most working girls in Pattaya are Thais but, vice versa, not all Thai women are prostitutes. Keep this in mind please when dating and dealing with everyday Thai ladies outside Pattaya's "sex industry".
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1) Bar girls have been forced into prostitution.
Totally wrong. Every girl has made her own decision for this special kind of occupation. Of course there are job alternatives upcountry, for example, in factories, supermarkets a.s.o. As the salaries in factories, however, are very low and the girls, due to their lack of education, can hardly find jobs that pay better, it is, first of all, a financial decision why girls decide to enter the sex trade. Usually they have female relatives (sisters, cousins) or friends in their home village who have worked in Pattaya's bar scene already and invite them
to work in the same bar. There are no pimps involved, and very often the girls' parents do not even know that their daughters work as prostitutes in Pattaya.
2) Many Thai bar girls are under age.
No. For first-time visitors most Asian women look significantly younger than they actually are, and it takes quite a while to get used to the often child-like looks of bar girls. Most bar girls, however, are at least in their twenties (some are even in their fourties already!), have been married previously and given birth to at least one child. Even if you should happen to meet a 17-year old girl in a bar (or along Beach road bouvevard), chances she's still a virgin are as low as zero point zero percent! Reportedly, however, things look different in Pattaya's gay scene where underage boys seem to be first choice?
3) Thai bar girls are getting sexually exploited by Western sex tourists.
Of course, bar girls are getting sexually exploited, that's their job. In other words, they are getting just as much exploited as most employees by their employers. That's the nature of labour, isn't it? Or, to put it less cynically, bar girls - who have entered the flesh trade following their own free decision - are getting sexually just as much exploited by so-called "sex tourists" as these foreigners (aka sex tourists) are getting financially exploited by Thai bar girls.
In other words, it's a fair trade: sex for money - which is what both sides have come to Pattaya for. And, most importantly, bar girls in Pattaya can choose their customers, even if it may appear the other way round. Which Western prostitute can afford this kind of luxury?
As said above, there are more respectable jobs available - even for the least educated Isaan girl, and, no matter how low the wages, they're always enough for living on the village. The real problem is that a labourer in a Thai factory, for instance, is physicaly probably getting more exploited than the hardest working Soi 6 bar girl in the most thriving short-time bar. What is the minimum wage in Bangkok 2008? Just above 200 Baht a day. Now how does that compare to a minimum pay of 500 Baht per hour or a 1000 Baht per night? Blame society, globalization, whatever - not the sexual desire of Western men - neglected by Western women - who fill a financial gap they did not create themselves. By the way: Prostitution in Thailand has a longer tradition than modern tourism
in Western society.
4) Farangs are getting financially exploited by bar girls.
Of course, some love fools who end up buying houses, motorbikes, cars and tons of Thai gold for their short-term Thai "girlfriends" who they bar-fined in a local bar (oh no, they never paid cash for sex!), might get seriously exploited financially and, depending on their monetary background, sooner or later end up in both a financial and emotional desaster. In fact - there are quite a few guys who have lost all their savings to a smart Pattaya bar girl who literally ripped them off. Then again, we have all heard these horror stories before, so they should never come as a surprise. In general, most guys simply get what they have come to Pattaya for: sex for money - a fair deal for both sides. Just stick to the basic rules of common sense when getting romantically involved with prostitutes and always remember who they are: prostitutes who get paid for sexual services. If a relationship based on paid sex should develop into a serious love affair, well, that's a bonus.
5) Bar girls do not like their job.
Wrong. Pattaya bar girls do enjoy their job. Most girls already have friends or relatives (elder sisters, cousins a.s.o.) who work in the same bar, so it's easy for "new" girls to get used to the bar job. Bar girls who have problems with their "special" kind of occupation usually find this out after a couple of days only and leave Pattaya again. Most girls, however, decide to stay. After all, what's wrong with working in a bar?! Physically it is definitely not a tough job - chatting with punters, enjoying "lady drinks" and going to the fridge occasionally to take out a bottle of "Heineken" neither requires keen intellect nor physical effort. Unless they are busy with "taking care customers" they can sit around, chat with each other, watch Thai soap operas on TV or manicure their fingernails. Furthermore, the bar job pays a lot better than working in a factory upcountry. Even though the base wages are rather low, bar girls can increase their salaries by earning commissions on lady drinks and bar fines, and working girls who know how to do the bar job to the satisfaction of their "customers" can easily make enough money to support their parents and children in the village and make a living for themselves.
As far as the "sex part" of the bar job is concerned, well, that's quite a difficult question. Do Thai bar girls actually enjoy having sex with clients, apart from the
fact, they are getting paid for it? Ten years ago I would have replied: some do -
others don't. And quite a few (often the best performers who enjoyed having sex
most) were willing to spend the night with you for free and totally enjoyed what
they were doing - provided you were Fun to be with, halfway good-looking and
knew how to satisfy a woman. Nowadays many Farangs who know Pattaya for
a while might rather have the impression that less girls actually enjoy the sex
part of their job but simply "do it for money". That's probably right; but, thanks
Buddha, there are still a few bar girls who enjoy getting shagged :) You might just have to search a bit longer than in the "good old days" ...
6) Bar girls earn "big money"
Wrong. Even though many good-looking and accordingly "busy" bar girls, and especially those engaged in GoGo bars (with relatively high base wages) have the potential to make "big money", most bar girls aren't able to save anything
of their monthly earnings, not because they actually waste it (some do) but as
the major part is regularly being sent back to their families and children in their home villages upcountry (and 95 per cent have at least one child and parents
in need of financial support). Due to Thailand's traditional social system which expects children to support their parents and other financially less "privileged" family members, unfortunately even those girls with a relatively high monthly income (and "wealthy" boyfriends sending money from abroad) do not get rich women in Pattaya. (Those whose "tee-lacs" buy property in their names have better chances of course. Lol!)
7) Bar girls prefer young men.
Wrong. In general, Thai bar girls prefer older men as their financial situation is secure enough to provide reliable financial support on a regular basis to them. Secondly, older men seem to be under the misconception (?) of displaying less "butterfly" behaviour than their younger counterparts.
8) Bar girls prefer old men.
Wrong. If an attractive and well-off young man can provide the same financial support as an elder man, most bar girls (unless they are looking for a "father figure") prefer young men.
9) Bar girls do not like Thai men.
Usually wrong. Even though most bar girls have made negative experiences with former Thai husbands or Thai men in general, it's surprising how many bar girls, especially GoGo dancers, secretly have Thai boyfriends who are getting financially supported by them (respectively the unaware Farang "boyfriends").
10) Pattaya Bar Girls Just Want Your Money.
Well, which prostitute in your home country does not want your money? But seriously, money might probably not enough to win the heart of a Thai bar girl. As Thai women in general, Pattaya bar girls appreciate polite behaviour and a man who smells and dresses well. If you haven't taken a shower or changed your clothes in the last seven days and have no command of the most basic rules of polite behaviour, you will probably face a hard time when searching for suitable sex partners, no matter what a "rich jerk" you might be.
11) Thai Bar Girls Seriously Love Farangs.
How many prostitutes do fall in love with their customers? Not too many, right? Then again, as every woman, Thai bar girls have a heart which they are capable of giving away. However, the "choice" who they fall in love with usually depends on the "chosen one's" financial background and readiness to take care for her and her family financially. Other factors might include your age, your looks and your potential to satisfy her sexually. But - no matter how young, good-looking and sexually potent you may be - never forget one basic rule: "Money number one", especially when looking for a long-term partner with serious ambitions.
12) Thai bar girls are submissive.
Clear "No". In fact, most bar girls, just as any other Thai women, are actually very dominant characters, extremely jealous, often tetchy and easily resort to violence when verbal confrontations get out of hand. You can be sure that when having a love-affair with a typical Pattaya bar girl she's not from the petting zoo but the monkey house rather. Of course, during your holidays you might get a totally different impression and - because you are a paying customer and get "first class" treatment for your money - feel like the king himself. In reality this "light" version is rather trappy and only reflects the commercial side of Farang-Thai bar girls relationships. Things do change abruptly when "love affairs" become more "serious".
13) Thai bar girls are all slim and petite
Well. In comparison to your average Western "Madame" (if you happen to have one) all Thai women seem to be supersexy, slim and have a wasp waist, right?
As far as the younger GoGo girls are concerned, this first impression might be 100% correct. (By the way - AGoGo bars have one natural advantage anyway: you can actually inspect a girl's body in its natural dress before paying her bar fine and taking her back to your room.)
Talking about average bar girls in open-air beer bars, however, the situation might be slightly different as you virtually "buy a pig in a poke". In fact, from a closer point of view, that means, after you have taken "her" back to your room and she's stripped off her clothes and towel (provided she's left the lights on in this critical moment), many bar girls appear to be less petite than in their fancy bar dress or - to say it in Thai - "pompui nid noi". Fact is - according to figures recently released by the Thai public health ministry, 60% of Thai women are - more or less- overweight (only 20% of Thai men).
Why? Talking about Thai bar girls and given the fact that, roughly estimated,
95% of them have given birth to children, the most obvious reason seems to be their pregnancies - often at an early age. Secondly - their unhealthy "hobbies": sleep, eat and drink (lots of somtam and Bacardi Breezers!) As a rough rule of thumb one might say: the older the girls are, the more kids they have, and the unhealthier their lifestyle - the "bigger".
No reason to panic or cancel your holidays, though! There are still enough sexy Thai girls in Pattaya that come up to your expectations of petite Asian women - if that's what you like? They're still the majority - you might just have to search a bit longer than twenty or thirty years ago to find that "perfect body".
Then again, what reflection do most of us see in the mirror? "Sexy men"? Fool if you believe the lips of a bar girl!
14) Bar girls dream of getting married with Farangs and going abroad to their home countries.
Not really. Even though most bar girls are in search of a Farang boyfriend or husband who can provide regular financial support to them and their families,
not so many girls are actually keen on going abroad. A short visit might be welcome, on the long run, however, most women prefer to stay in their own home country. Strongly attached to their families and Thai culture in general, most Thai girls find it very hard to get used to living in a Western country and adjust to a different culture. Furthermore, many bar girls with Farang boyfriends who do not stay in Thailand permanently secretly keep on working in the sex trade, even though their Farang darlings might have been promised they were staying up in the village with their families and babies. Some girls even have numerous "boyfriends" who support them financially and each of them thinks they were the one and only. Good luck with finding the "love of our life"!
One of the most persistent and controversial misconceptions about bar girls is the next one.
15) Thai bar girls are no prostitutes.
Wrong. By definition, any woman that sells her body, or let's rather say, her "companionship" for money is a prostitute, right? And the only reason why bar girls have started the bar job and "sell pussy" is, first of all, financial. It is the money they've come to Pattaya for, not the great beaches, golf courses or the prospect of meeting YOU! Every Thai girl would, instead of starting a career as bar girl, much rather stay with a Thai man upcountry than date foreign men who can't even speak Thai language, understand her culture and social background.
It's simply the prospect of making "easy" money and being able to support her family members that drives a village girl to Pattaya. If, by the way, she comes across a possible future husband from a wealthy Western country, well, that's a welcome side-effect. Strangely enough though, hardly any Thai bar girl would consider herself a "prostitute", and in fact, the service Pattaya bar girls provide rather resembles that of a round-the-clock "escort service" than prostitution as we know it in Western countries. Going to a Pattaya beer bar is not like going to a brothel for a quickie, instead, beer bars compare much rather to a regular pub back home with an abundance of attractive and entertaining "waitresses" that, and this is the only difference, are ready to accompany you when you leave and cater for your sexual needs if required. The easy-going and friendly atmosphere in Pattaya's bar scene and the "take care" attitude of most girls might give you the false impression you were staying with a regular girlfriend rather than with a prostitute that stays with you for money. As matter of fact, however, she is getting paid, and don't say "I haven't paid her every day" but buy her a thick gold necklace after two weeks of "cheap" company!
Farang - Thai Bar Girl Relationships?
Of course, relationships between Thai bar girls and Farangs may go beyond
the scope of "prostitution" and develop into friendships and "love affairs" based rather on mutual affection than money ("rather" as you will still be expected to support her family financially if you want your girl to "retire" from the sex trade). Many Western men are happily married with former bar girls who subsequently turned into caring partners, housewives and mothers. "True love", however, is hard to find, and a famous saying alleges that "It's easy to get a girl out of a bar but impossible to get the bar out of the girl!" True in many cases, so think about it well!
To get an impression of the more positive aspects of Thai-Farang relationships including the funny sides of every-day life as a Thai-Western couple you might be interested in visiting Geoff and Amy's website - lots of amusing articles plus a forum dedicated to the various aspects of Thai-Western relationships. Another interesting site dedicated to exploring the relationships of Thai-Farang couples and increasing mutual understanding and respect between peoples of different cultures is ThaiFarang. As stated on their homepage this website "has mainly been set up to counterbalance the many negative and defeatist views regarding Thai-Farang relationships found on the web." If you've already met the seemingly perfect Thai girl and both of you are serious enough about the future-challenges of your relationship then these two websites (amongst many others) are definitely worth taking a look at.
No doubt - even relationships between Pattaya bar girls and Western visitors
may go beyond the scope of the typical "sex for money" or "holiday caretaker" scheme (a lot might might depend on your own attitude and ambitions!) and, of course, there are serious ladies out there looking for genuine relationships and, possibly, marriage.
Most bar girls' expectations of a long-term romance, however, are restricted to the prospect of a steady income from a regular Pattaya visitor and "sponsor" who provides monthly financial support from abroad. So if you really can't help falling in love, do not fall in love too quickly! Take your time, look around, there are 10,000s of bar girls in Pattaya who are all willing to become your special friend of the night or - if you are lucky and serious enough yourself?! - even more. All the best, guys!
Last but not least: Do not fall for made-up stories of chronically sick "papa-
mama" and deceased or ill water buffaloes! Be generous if you're happy with your girl and her service but do not let her make a love-fool or a two legged ATM of you! A payment of say one thousand dollars can easily cure a sick water buffalo for a while, surely, however, it would make his fellow buffaloes seriously sick!
Use your common sense and don't leave your brain at the airport customs!


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The Truth About Pattaya Bar Girls
Now how many times have we heard one of the following sentences from the lips of a Pattaya newbie who has just come across the "love of his life"? "My girfriend is different from all the other Thai girls", "My lady doesn't love me for my money" or "My girlfriend has never been a prostitute"? Others, misguided by lurid news stories published in the foreign tabloid press, seem to think bar girls were all sexually exploited teenagers who have been violently forced into prostitution. What's right? What's wrong? And what is your position as Farang when dealing with Pattaya bar girls and entering long-term relationships or love affairs with them? On this page we will try to put some popular misconceptions about Pattaya bar girls right and - by the way - try to explain some aspects of relationships between bar girls and Farangs.