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Pattaya Bar Girls: "No Money, No Honey?"  (Part Two)

Bar Fines & How much to Pay for Sex?   Ladyboy Alert: How to Spot a Ladyboy?
In Your Hotel Room: Extra Charges?   Thai Sex Morals   HIV/Aids and STDs

Bar Fines & How Much To Pay For Sex?

If you want to "take a girl out of her bar", either for a "short time" session or for the rest of the night/until the beginning of her next shift, you will be asked to pay her bar fine. This is the fee charged by the bar for taking one of the service girls out (bar girls usually get paid monthly salaries). Bar fines are 300 Baht in most beer bars in Pattaya and approx. 500 to 1,000 Baht in GoGo bars. Please note that bar fines have recently been skyrocketing in many chrome pole palaces and may be even higher for "show girls".
Just remember that paying the bar fine only entitles you to take a girl out of her bar for the rest of her shift. You will still have to pay your girl a kind of compensation fee for extra sexual services, or simply for the time she's investing in you - even if you should only take her out for dinner and not have sex with her e.g. because you're too drunk. This money is usually not paid in advance but handed over to the girl after you have had sex or when she leaves the next morning. (Depending on your nationality, in some venues you might be asked to also pay for the lady's extra services in advance.)
The going rates - always negotiable and depending on the season, location of the bar, and the individual expectations of your chosen one - are roughly as follows:
Beer Bar 700-1,000 Baht "short time"
  1,000-2,000 Baht "long time"
A-GoGo Bar 1,000-2,000 Baht "short time"
(~ 1 hour)
  2,000-4,000 Baht "long time"
(all night)
Long-time - as well as short-time - rates are always negotiable; especially during the low season or when staying with the same lady for a couple of days or weeks. While many girls will give you a discount when you "bar fine" them for longer than a week or so, this "price flexibility", however, also implies that there's virtually no limit to how much a certain girl may demand for "special services" or for simply spending her time with you, especially if you have a drop-dead-gorgeous "stunner" from a well attended GoGo bar on Walking Street. In order to avoid an argument with your lady the following morning or just an hour later, you're advised to always agree on a fixed price for sexual services before paying a girl's bar fine, especially with ladies from Gogo bars where rates are flexible particularly in the upward direction.
Also please note that many bar girls in Pattaya, and especially chrome pole dancers in GoGo bars, have developed a kind of short-time mentality in recent years and might not really be interested in spending the whole night with you, no matter what you've agreed on before. The obvious reason for this is that two or three "short times" per night are more lucrative than a 12-hour "long time" session with the same guy and involve less work. Also, in case her regular bar should be closed already, then there's still a number of after-hours bars and nightclubs in the Walking Street area (e.g. JP bar on Soi Lucky Star) where bar girls are welcome to operate as freelance hookers after their regular working hours.
Tip: If you've agreed on "long time," i.e. the girl staying with you all night, it is surely disappointing if she still insists on go back bar or go back my loom after the job is done and your money has changed hands. Then again, it's really pointless to start an argument over it. Better just don't go see that girl again as she's obviously not really keen on your company or might even have a boyfriend/husband or another "walking wallet" waiting for her. On the other hand, if you've been rude with your lady, demanded "non-standard" sexual practices, or argue about paying a price that you've previously agreed on, well, you shouldn't be surprised if the girl wants to leave as soon as the job is done. As the song suggests: Treat her like a lady. Most bar girls, if treated nicely and ladylike, will provide you with an awesome service.
How To Spot (And Avoid?) Ladyboys in Pattaya

If you frequently watch Pattaya-related videos on YouTube or similar video-sharing sites you can easily get the false impression that every second bar girl in Pattaya is a "chick with a dick." Now that's obviously not true: While we agree that the number of ladyboys working in Pattaya's sex industry has seemingly increased in recent years, ladyboys probably make up only less than 10% of the total number of sex workers in Pattaya.
Katoeys (as ladyboys are called in Thai) usually have some kind of designated ladyboy areas where they work and pick up customers who are interested in "women of the second category" (e.g. a handful of bars on Soi 6/Yodsak and in the Walking Street area) or work as freelance prostitutes on Pattaya Beach Road. In most "regular" beer bars and Gogo clubs, however, you should be "safe" from accidentally bar-fining a ladyboy only to end up with an unpleasant surprise when you strip the knickers off your big-busted tall Thai beauty (i.e. "unpleasant" only if you really have no hidden desires in that direction?)
To briefly sum up how to spot a ladyboy in Pattaya's nightlife districts and what you should watch out for:
- generally attractive and sexy; slutty dress
- tall, big (silicon) boobs, little arse
- girlish behaviour, exaggerated sexy walk
- dark masculine voice
- less shy, with sometimes "pushy" or slutty behaviour
- wide shoulders, big feet and hands, Adams's Apple
If you want to avoid accidentally taking a ladyboy back to your room, or perhaps this should be just what you secretly desire, we hope this brief check list will help you a bit. For further information on Pattaya's notorious katoeys, how to spot a ladyboy, where to meet ladyboys (or which areas and bars to avoid?) etc. please check out our dedicated Pattaya Ladyboys page.

In Your Hotel Room 1: Extra Charges?

If you rent a room in a guesthouse or low-budget hotel, you will probably not face any problems when you take a female guest back to your room overnight: no extra charges, no silly questions, and the lady will likely not be required to deposit her ID card at the reception. This means less costs and hassle for you, but also less security.
On the other hand, if you stay at an upmarket or more family-oriented hotel where the management is more concerned about the hotel's image and imposes stricter security policies (many hotels at Jomtien like to promote themselves as "family-friendly") your female overnight guest will most likely be asked to leave her ID card or a copy of it at the hotel reception.
While this is for your own security if you should end up in problems (e.g. get robbed during your sleep) some upmarket hotels have the controversial policy to charge you extra for "unregistered guests" in your room - which may mean additional expenses of 300-500 Baht per visit to your room. Especially upscale hotels and resorts or such that cater primarily to family vacationers may impose this controversial "extra charge" policy and require you to pay a "joiner fee", others just want to rip you off. (After all, in Thailand you pay for the room, not per person.) Therefore, if you plan on entertaining female guests regularly, you're advised to check in advance, i.e. before booking a room, whether the hotel charges you a joiner fee for such visits or not. Otherwise this extra payment may well become a bit expensive on the long run.
Sexy dancer in Pattaya Gogo bar
Girls waiting for customers on Soi 6
Bar girls on Soi 6
Sexy Pattaya Bar Girls
In Your Hotel Room 2: Thai Sex Morals ...

Back in your hotel room you'll probably find out quickly that Thai girls "function" somewhat differently from Western women in the bedroom. Most importantly, Thai women have a strong sense of cleanliness and usually take a shower before going to bed with you, and of course they will ask you to take a shower as well. Unless your lady has been "in business" for a while and has already discarded her natural shyness, you should also find out now that Thai girls are not only very clean but - believe it or not - also quite shy (regardless of how sexy they dress or how "naughty" they may behave in their bars.) This is also why the obligatory pre-sex shower is usually to be taken separately! And you should not be surprised either if some persuasion is required to make an inexperienced bar girl strip off her towel after the shower. Some may even ask you to switch off the lights, or may not be willing to peel off their towel before they are actually in bed with you and the action starts!
Please also keep in mind that especially new girls "fresh from the village" who have not been bar-fined very often yet and are not sufficiently familiar with "Western sex morals" may sometimes not act very "professionally" between the sheets. As pointed out in an earlier chapter, most bar girls have grown up very traditionally and on the countryside, and Thailand's Buddhism-inspired sex morals - at least as officially preached by the defenders of Thai morality in local schools and in the media - are relatively conservative for Western standards.
In Thai schools, sex education basically doesn't exist other than in the form of instructions for boys and girls not to have sex at too early an age. Of course, in the 21st century, this doesn't stop young people from having sex. The inevitable clash, and the obvious incompatibility, of "traditional" cultural values and the reality of the modern world lets Thailand often appear as a land of "sexual hypocrites." Prostitution (same as gambling) is virtually illegal but still exists in every larger village. Premarital sex is "culturally not correct," yet underage pregnancies are continuously on the rise. The lack of effective sex education in Thai schools, little knowledge of "safer sex" techniques, birth control methods etc. certainly don't help young Thai girls either when they make their first sexual experiences.
Whether justified or not, Thai men also have a reputation for being rather lousy and lazy lovers; therefore many young women "fresh from the countryside" may have only little experience with more "eccentric" sex practices (including oral sex) and have likely never had any sexual contacts other than with local men in their villages. It's probably safe to assume that 99% of bar girls in Pattaya have never had sex with a Westerner before moving to Pattaya (a large percentage may have never even spoken to a Farang in the real world!) so it should be quite intelligible that many bar girls "fresh from the rice farm" are a bit wary of their first-time sex with a Westerner. However, once they've acquired a taste for it, many bar girls actually often enjoy the sex, naturally even the more so if their foreign clients are not only generous but also young and good-looking. Also remember that sanook ("Fun") is an important concept in Thai culture, and the natural Thai sense of fun is also manifested in their attitude towards sex. Therefore, if you want to get the most out of sex with a Thai girl, try to be "Fun" in bed, make your lady feel relaxed and treat her like you would naturally treat a "real" girlfriend, not a prostitute only temporarily posing as one.
As a rough rule of thumb: Pattaya bar girls are the less shy the longer they have been in the sex trade and the more Farang clients they have served. "Her" experience and professionalism as a sex worker, as well as your skills of persuasion, will also determine her willingness to perform certain sexual practices e.g. oral or anal sex which are less common with Thai men.

Condom Alarm! HIV/Aids and Sexually Transmitted Diseases

Last but not least: Unless you fancy an HIV/Aids test back home, it should be self-evident to use a condom when having sex with a Pattaya bar girl. Even if the risk of an HIV infection might not be as high as frequently reported in the foreign media (unfortunately no official statistics are available for Pattaya specifically) sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) are "quite common" in Pattaya.
Again, no statistics regarding the incedence of STDs among sex workers in Pattaya are available, but if you talk to (s)expats who have lived in Pattaya for a while and regularly use the services of bar girls, you'll find that quite a few have already contracted one STD or the other during their years in Pattaya. We would also assume that the risk of contracting an STD is higher in "short time" bars or when picking up freelance prostitutes from the beach. What makes the situation worse and more complicated is that many girls might not even know they are infected with an STD - or simply don't care - and therefore don't seek medical treatment. And if they do know that they have an STD, this still doesn't necessarily stop them from having unprotected sex with clients. The "money number one" principle also applies here.
It doesn't have to be Aids or Hepatitis, a nasty genital fungal or Chlamydia infection, Gonorrhea or genital herpes, can be easily transmitted (e.g. Gonorrhea can also be transmitted through oral sex!) and will definitely spoil your holidays for at least one week. While medication and antibiotics are readily available in local pharmacies and clinics, now who wants to take antibiotics, refrain from drinking alcohol and having sex for a full week when on holiday in Pattaya?! Probably not you.
By the way, according to the latest HIV/Aids statistics from 2013, Thailand records about 8,200 new HIV infections and 21,000 Aids-related deaths every year. Sex workers and their clients, injecting drug users, and gay men account for over 60% of new infections. Since the first case was reported in 1984, nearly 1.2 million Thais have been infected with HIV. An estimated 460,000 (approx. 0.7% of the population) are currently living with HIV/Aids. On a positive note, in 2010, reportedly "up to 90% of Thai sex workers were found [to be] using condoms." Learn a lesson! (Sources: The Nation, The Nation, Bangkok Post)

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