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Taking A Girl Out Of A Bar: Bar Chit-Chat, Lady Drinks Etc.

Okay, now you walk along, say, Soi 8 in Central Pattaya on a random evening of the year. "Hello sexy man", "Where you go?", and sometimes an unambigious "I want go with you" is shouted at you from every single beer bar, and Soi 8, just like neighbouring Soi 7, is absolutely packed with open-air bars.
Nice sight, all these young exotic chicks competing for your attention, ain't it? Just don't worry if your possibly low self-esteem or reason can hardly agree with their rating of your incredibly good looks (that you'd never been aware of before walking along this narrow side-street. Ok, you might be old, bold and fat, so what? Even more reason to enjoy their attention, i.e. as long as you don't really believe you were as "sexy" or "handsome" as they make you believe you were.
When you've read this page and should indeed stroll along Soi 8, chances that you finally stop at one of the dozens of beer bars and start a chat with one of the hostesses are probably very high. Now don't you expect a sophisticated conversation in perfect Oxford English - just remember that the foreign language skills of the average Isaan rice farmer's daughter are usually rather low. This is also why the notorious Thai bar girl "chit-chat" always samples the same old, rather silly chat-
up lines, phrases and standard questions they've picked up from their experienced co-workers:
"Where you from?
What my name you?
How long you stay Pattaya?"
The popular standard question "What hotel you stay?" could be an early hint at a more profound (financial) interest in your company.
Sooner or later "your girl" might ask you to buy her a so-called Lady drink. Now Pattaya bar girls earn commissions on such "lady drinks" (often orange juice or so), so given the low base wages, there's nothing wrong with buying your girl a 'lady drink' or two (prices are slightly above those of bottled beer). However, you should be careful when a girl pushes you too much or asks you for a new lady drink every 15 minutes - the more so if you've replied to her question "How many times you come Pattaya" with a telltale "First time."
If you like the special girl you've been chatting with, you can ask her to accompany you back to your room, that is, unless she's made her readiness to be your partner of the night clear enough herself. On the other hand, if this is your first bar of the night, maybe during your first-ever visit to Pattaya, you may as well "check bin" (modern Thai for "Check the bill, please") and stroll along, have another drink at the bar nextdoor and find out whether the beauty over there is not actually even more beautiful.
Take your time, enjoy yourself, don't fall for the first best girl! Remember, especially as "Pattaya newbie": You're not in a hurry here, there are more than a thousand bars in Pattaya with tens of thousands of sexy bar girls, who are (nearly) all willing to spoil you and be your special friend of the night!

Bar Fines & How Much To Pay For Sex?

In order to take a girl out of her bar - usually for the rest of the night or until the beginning of her next shift, you'll be asked to pay her 'bar fine'. That's the fee charged by the bar for taking one of the service girls out and usually around 300 Baht in a Beer Bar or about 500-700 Baht in a GoGo bar.
Remember that you will still have to pay "your girl" a kind of "compensation fee" for extra sexual services, or simply the time she's investing in you - even if you shouldn't have sex with her, e.g. if you're too drunk. This money is usually not paid in advance, but after you've had sex or when the girl leaves. The going rates (always negotiable and depending on the season and 'standard' of our chosen one) are roughly as follows:

Beer Bar	500-1000 THB	"short time"
	~ 1000 THB	"long time"
A-GoGo Bar	1000 THB up (Absolute minimum!)	"short time" (~ 1 hour)
	2000 THB up (The sky's the limit!)	"long time" (all night)

Pattaya Bar Girls: "No Money, No Honey?"

Pattaya has made great efforts to upgrade its good old sleazy image in recent years, away from its infamous "sex image" and tattered reputation as a receptacle for so-called "sex tourists" and all sorts of other "perverts", towards upmarket "quality" tourism.
But have these efforts been really successful? Or have the chief strategists of Thailand's Tourism Authority just been rather naive and presumptuous with their ambitious yet ivory-tower advertising strategies for a new and "clean" Pattaya? Honestly, it looks a bit like the latter.
No doubt, Pattaya's sexy bar girls still remain one of the main attractions, which Pattaya has on offer for single male tourists. (Just imagine a redesigned "clean" Pattaya without the hundreds of beer bars and GoGo bars and their 20,000 or so bar maids, lightly-dressed GoGo girls, ladyboys and freelance hookers - and how many tourists would still opt for Pattaya?)
The grown-up former "tiger" Thailand may no longer be a third world country, and prices (not only for sexual services!) have increased significantly recently, while the "quality" of the working girls may have somewhat declined compared to the "good old" early days - yet Pattaya is still one of the few places in the world where a man can materialise his secret dream of sexy Asian girls at affordable prices or, to quote a good old friend of mine, "Disneyland for adults".
So - who are these Pattaya bar girls at all??

Bar girl basics: "No Money No Honey" - Bar Girls vs Freelance Prostitutes -
Take a girl out of a bar: Lady drinks etc. - Bar fines, How much to pay for Sex?
In your hotel room: Extra charges? - Thai Sex Morals - HIV and other diseases
The Truth about Pattaya bar girls & Thai-Farang relationships

Bar Girl Basics: "No Money, No Honey"

First of all - the vast majority of working girls in Pattaya's bars and AGoGo clubs doesn't actually come from Pattaya but originates from Thailand's northeastern region known as "Isaan".
Traditionally "Isaan" has always been Thailand's poorest area, rich in cultural heritage but an only little developed, hardly industrialized rural region between the borderlines of Laos in the North and East, and the old Khmer empire of Cambodia in the South.
Traditionally, the people of Isaan are farmers, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that the average Pattaya bar girl is not a sophisticated college girl but a rice farmer's daughter from remote village areas, who's enjoyed only very little formal education and, in spite of her Western appearance, is actually very traditional (or old-fashioned for Western standards) and pays high respect to family values.
The average Thai bar girl, no matter how old (and they are usually older than what they look like!) looks back onto an unhappy history of at least one broken marriage or love affair with a local Thai man, who has transpired to be either an alcoholic, a wife-beater, "butterfly" or gambler, or who is simply too lazy to work. (At least, that's the girls' version.)
Nearly all bar girls (probably more than 90%) have given birth to at least one child that has been entrusted in their grandparents' care, meaning that most bar girls you meet in Pattaya's nightlife areas, no matter how young they may be or look, are actually mothers.
So, given the poor educational background and the lack of lucrative employment opportunities in their home region, you may now have a guess what all these girls have come to Pattaya for and "sell pussy"?!
Look for a foreign boyfriend or husband? Whereas this may be a beneficial side-effect, first of all, however, the correct answer is "money". "No money, no honey", as bar girls say. In other words, these girls haven't come here for "fucking around" and spending their nights in discos (which they may still enjoy, of course), but to make a living off their most valuable resource: their body.

Bar Girls vs Freelance Prostitutes

When an Isaan village girl has finally made the decision to seek an employment as "sex worker" in Pattaya, she has basically two choices:
a) look for a job in a regular beer bar (low base wages, long shifts) or b) work as pole dancer in a GoGo bar, provided she's not too shy to exhibit her body in front of a large male audience and is 'easy' enough 'on the eye'.
Other girls soon get tired of regular long working hours, or the bossy behaviour of a bar owner or 'mamasan', and decide to ply their trade as freelancers, roaming Pattaya Beach Road at night or hanging about in bars on Walking Street, discos and nightclubs, always in search of a generous gentleman and potential "short-time" client.
Freelance Thai hookers can easily be picked up along the South Pattaya beach promenade or in one of the notorious Walking Street discos that operate as 'pick-up joints' for freelance girls (e.g. Marine Disco, Lucifer's or Tony's). You'll easily spot them there, or they'll just come and chat you up.
Obviously you will not be required to pay a "bar fine". Unless when picking up Yaba junkies from the beach or so, prices for sexual service, however, don't vary significantly from what "regular bar girls" ask for: 500 Baht or so for a "short-time" session of an hour or so, and about 1000 Baht for "long time" (all night). Well, and apart from saving the "bar fine", you are not restricted to opening hours of nightspots ...
BUT please note: When you pick up freelance girls and take them back to your room, you might well save a couple of 100-Baht notes on 'bar fines'. If you end up in trouble, however, say you get robbed of your money, passport, mobile phones, or other belongings during your sleep - possibly after having been drugged -, your chance to find the same girl again somewhere on the streets of Pattaya is nearly as low as zero. (If you have problems with a girl from a bar, you can always go back to the bar where she works; most entertainment venues keep copies of their employees' ID cards.)
Take care and don't end up as the main performer in one of these "another foreigner drugged and robbed" news stories ..

Long-time (as well as short-time) rates are always negotiable - especially during the low season or when staying with the same girl for a couple of days or even weeks. Being negotiable, though, also implies that there is virtually no limit to how much a certain girl could demand for her "extra services" - especially if you fancy a drop-dead-gorgeous stunner from a well attended GoGo bar.
(In order to avoid an argument with your girl on the following morning, or just an hour later, you're advised to always agree on a certain price for sexual services before paying the "bar fine".)
Also please note that many Pattaya bar girls and especially chrome pole dancers in GoGo bars have recently developed a "short-time mentality" and might not be very interested in spending the whole night with you - no matter what you've agreed on. The reason for this, of course, is that two or three "short times" a night are more lucrative than a 12-hours "long time" session. And in case her bar should be closed already, then there's still a number of discos and after-hours bars in the Walking Street area (e.g. JP bar on Soi Marine Plaza) where bar girls are welcome to operate as freelance hookers after their regular working hours and pick up, maybe, another "walking wallet".

In Your Hotel Room 1: Extra Charges?

If you stay at a guesthouse or a low-budget hotel, you will probably not face any problems when taking a female guest back to your room overnight: no extra charges, no silly questions, and the girl won't be required to deposit her ID card at the reception - meaning less costs and hassle but also less security.
On the other hand, if you stay at an upmarket or more family-oriented hotel, whose management is more concerned about the hotel image and imposes stricter security policies (many hotels at Jomtien like to promote themselves as 'family-friendly'), your female overnight guest will probably be asked to leave her ID card at the hotel reception.
While this is for your own security if you should end up in problems (e.g. if you get robbed during your sleep), some hotels, especially at Jomtien, have the controversial policy to charge you extra for "unregistered guests" - which can mean additional expenses of between 300 and 500 THB per visit to your room. Especially upscale hotels or such that cater to family vacationers may impose this 'extra charge' policy, others just want to rip you off. (After all, in Thailand you pay for a room, not per person.)
So if you plan on entertaining female guests regularly, you're advised to check in advance (before booking or "checking in") whether a hotel charges you for such visits as this extra payment may well become a bit expensive on the long run.

In Your Hotel Room 2: Thai Girls Can Be Shy ...

Back in your hotel room you'll probably find out that Thai girls have a strong sense of cleanliness and usually take a shower before going to bed with you, and of course she will ask you to take a shower as well. Unless your girl has been 'in business' for a while already and has discarded her natural shyness, you should also find out that Thai girls aren't only clean but - believe it or not - also rather shy. Therefore the obligatory pre-sex shower is usually to be taken separately.
You should not be surprised either if some 'persuasion' is required to make an unexperienced bar girl strip off her towel after the shower. Some may even ask you to switch the lights off, and may not be willing to peel off their towel before they are in bed with you. (Keep in mind that especially "new girls", who have not been "bar-fined" very often and aren't used to "Farang sex morals" yet, may not act very "professionally". As said above, most bar girls have grown up very traditionally, and traditionally Thailand's sex morals are pretty conservative for Western standards.)
As a rough rule of thumb, Pattaya bar girls are the less shy the longer they have been in the sex trade and the more Farang clients they have had. 'Her' experience as sex worker, as well as your skills of persuasion, also determine her willingness to perform certain sexual practices which are less common with Thai men (BJ, anal sex, a threesome etc.).

Condom Alarm! HIV/Aids And Sexually Transmitted Diseases

Last but not least: Unless you fancy an HIV-test back home, it should be self-evident to use a condom when having sex with a Pattaya bar girl. Even if the risk of an HIV infection may not be as high as reported in the foreign media (unfortunately no official figures are available for Pattaya specifically), sexually transmitted diseases (STD's) are unfortunately pretty common in Pattaya. What makes the situation worse, is that many girls don't even know that they're infected with an STD, or just might not care, and therefore don't seek medical treatment.
It need not be Aids or Hepatitis, a nasty genital fungal infection, Gonorrhoea or a painful Herpes, can be easily transmitted (e.g. Gonorrhoea can be transmitted through oral sex, too!) and would definitely spoil your "sex holidays" for at least one week. Take care!
Latest Figures (January 2009): People With Aids Tally Rises To 1.2 Million

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